Thursday, February 21, 2008
Positive Or Negative Loss of Control
In class today we talked about is it ever justifiable to lose control of your emotions. The point about whether it is bad or good to lose control was discussed. But what if you lose control of your emotions in a positive way? Is that good or bad? What's the difference?
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Slightly off topic but in response to this query the first thing that came to mind was Bi-Polar Disorder.If you don't already know this is a very serious diagnosis. Does anyone think there is enough evidence in the play to suggest that Othello might have been bi-polar?
In response to ms.clifford, I havent really gotten a full enough grasp of the personal side of Othello to make a fair judgment on bipolar disorder.
The other day in class I started to think about why Othello would so suddenly reject Desdemona. Maybe he was never really sure if Desdemona was with him for the right reasons (love etc). I know from own experience if you are feeling like people are talking about you or making fun of you behind your back for example, the quietest snicker might make you really paranoid. Maybe Othello wasnt really sure if Desdemona actually was with him for love and when Iago planted those thoughts into his head he ate them up because it was someone besides himself that felt that it was obvious of lack of passion of Desdemona.
ANYWAYS to get back to the actual topic..
People always need to be in control of their emotions, good or bad. In the other post i talked about if someone burst into tears about nothing in public..That can be pretty embarrassing and awkward because our society is very judgmental and wont know how to react.
One situation where over reacting in a positive way was when Tom Cruise was on Oprah and started jumping on the couches because he was SOOOOOOOO IN LOVE with Katie Holmes. The public really flipped out at that and labelled him as a crazy scientologist. In that instance, he really should have behaved more appropriately because he is in the public eye and is looked up to because of his profession.
So just to clarify aaujla, are you saying that letting your emotions out of control in a positive way can be just as bad as letting them out in a negative way?
I have to say that I think that it is sometimes justifiable to lose control in a positive way. It is only to a certain extent though, like its okay to be really happy and express that but preferably in a socially acceptable way. I do agree with aaujla in that Tom Cruise on the Oprah show was overboard and out of line. Being really happy is one thing but jumping on the couch of a talk show is not exactly respectful. In response to Ms. Clifford's comment I dont think we have enough evidence to make such a serious diagnosis. I also dont know enough about the disorder.
In response to kar... I think that killing your spouse for whatever reason (especially for one that Othello wasn't even 100% sure of) is serious enough to justify the diagnosis. Psychological disorders (especially really minor ones like ADD) are thrown around these days without much thought, so in my opinion the titles themselves don't really mean much. However, in relation to bipolar disorder, I can see how Othello fits the description. One minute he's utterly smitten with Desdemona, and the next he's a train wreck. He doesn't have much control over his emotions, and his actions are drastic.
In response to ms. Clifford, I don't believe there's any substantial evidence that Othello was actually bi-polar. BUT, wanna know something cool? HE HAS HIS VERY OWN DISEASE!
Othello syndrome: The delusion of infidelity of a spouse or partner!
http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=25111
In response to the original post, I don't believe people lose control of their "happy" emotions in the same way that they can be affected by the angry emotions.
Just for a random quote from Mr. Mailer, "Guys have only two emotions; happy and angry."
I think if you lose your control in a positive way, its the best thing ever, because you're just bringing yourself up and others around you with a positive attitude, unless its you who won gold and the other didnt and your cheering makes them jealous and unhappy.
To reply to Tom Cruise, I just wanted to say that everyone who thinks he overreaked obviously doesnt realize that he is a human and when you really love someone, thats all you think about and it gets you excited. So how can you judge him?
Just wanted to clarify the bi-polar thing, its a mental disorder, and you go from deep depressions to happy highs in quick amounts of time or long amounts of time. Its pretty much like the rocky mts. .-'-.-'-.-'-.
And to reply to Ms clifford, right now i dont really see a relation, but perhaps there will be soon because there are hints.
I agree with "kar" when saying it is okay to lose control, in a positive way, to a certain extent. I enjoy the company of people who are more happy than others but sometimes I think people who are like that bottle up their bad emotions too much. They could just be acting like a really happy person when they're around people in public, although they actually may just be really sad. It's sort of hard to explain.
For the topic of Othello beling bipolar, I think that he probably does have some sort of problem like that. He seems to be switching back and forth from being really nice and loving to Desdemona at one time, to being really harsh to her at another.
For the most part people need to control their emotions while trying to convey them powerfully as to where to draw the line I think it really depends on the person's character,
but every one should be getting enough out as to not avoid a build up and break.
The best way to keep from overflowing is sharing with some one you can confide in.
and Ms.Clifford I do not believe Othello is bi-polar, he is merely suffering the expected mistrusts that would follow some one who rushes into the thought of love and unknowing the obvious repercussions
in response to ms clifford
i was saying that it can be bad to lose control of your "happy" emotions. Not always because it really depends on the situation...but i think it can be taking a little to far sometimes.
I agree with Kar, as of many others, that people should lose control, postively, and to a certain extent. When people have an idea of killing someone is losing control has major psychological problems.
In response to Ms. Clifford: I don't think Othello would have been bi-polar - did they even know about pi-polar disease back then? - we don't see enough about who he is away from this situation to determine whether or not he is indeed bi-polar.
In response to the original post:
It's really a fine line between where emotions are considered "ok" and where they have gone too far; this, obviously, is a much closer line when talking about loss of emotion in the negative direction. There are many situations where people just cannot contain their emotions, although it's not necessarily 'ok', it should be accepted for what it is...
When people get too happy about something as well, they can lose control of their emotions to the point where they don't care about anything, everything is going along "fine and dandy", and they just don't care about anything else - it's at this point where loss of emotion in the positive way is not acceptable.
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