Tuesday, February 12, 2008
p. 86 Question 4
Iago obviously doesn't care at all about Roderigo. He does, though,seem to care about Roderigo's money. Do you think Iago really wants only Roderigo's wealth, or does he have some other motive? Discuss this situation with other bloggers and try to decide what is really going on here.
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Iago is interested in Roderigo's money because he had the lecture about quote, "Put money in thy purse." Iago is the mastermind of Roderiago and controls every decision he makes on Roderigo's conquest for Desdemona. I believe that Iago is using Roderiago to conqueror a high military or lieutant position to present a superiority to everyone. Iago is the character who everyone should be keeping a "close eye" on because I have a great deal of suspicion that there will be a lot of back stabbing or betrayal.
I don't think that Iago really cares about GAINING Roderigo's wealth, however I do think that he's interested in it, mostly for manipulation purposes. Iago is the bad guy; he wants to ruin the other characters in every possible way. I think that manipulating Roderigo into selling all his possessions gives Iago an elevated feeling of control, and it's just one of the many ways through which he gets pleasure in exploiting people. k-mcl22's point makes sense as well, however I still don't think that Iago is interested in Roderigo's money. I'm thinking that Iago is coming in on more of an "if I can't look good then I'll make him look worse" angle rather than an "I'll use him to make me look better" angle.
I don't know if Iago is so much interested in gaining the wealth that Roderigo has, but I think, kind of along the lines of "stephanie!", that Iago wants Roderigo to have no stability beneath him - almost trying to push Roderigo down to lift himself up - in order to make himself more appealing. He seems to be very sure of the fact that Othello and Desdemona will not remain together for much longer, therefore wants to "fix the deck" in his favour so that when it comes time for Desdemona to move on, she looks in his direction. I also agree with "k-mcl22" in that Iago is trying to obtain more of a standing in the military, through Roderigo, in order to manipulate and black-mail Othello later on. Roderigo is definitely being played as Iago's "pawn" throughout the passages we've read so far.
Roderigo is in the palm of Iago's hand, he follows everything that Iago tells him to with little retribution. Iago might be testing his power of Roderigo by demanding him to gather his money and give it to him. He most likely wants the money for himself too.
I think that Iago isn't fully interested in gaining Roderigo's wealth, but he thinks the idea is nice. I'm going with Adam in saying he wants to manipulate Roderigo into losing his wealth so when Roderigo has noone to turn to, he comes to Iago. When Roderigo comes to Iago for help, Iago can use him to do his dirty work. I think that Iago finds Roderigo useful in his dumb, naive ways. The motives that Iago has are clever in most ways but if Roderigo smartened up, then Iago would fail horribly in his plan.
ok, so as people have already stated, i dont think that Iago wants the money for himself. Although I am sure that the idea has crossed his mind, and we have yet to find out if he will infact act on that. But for the time being, i think that the money is just another way that he is manipulating Roderigo. Iago obviously has alterior motives. He has managed to figure out a way to use everyone to his advantage, and right now he is thriving on the fact that he has this oblivious "side kick" (Roderigo), who will indirectly help him achieve that military position that he is so obviously desperate for.
I agree with adam that Iago is not directly interested in Roderigos wealth. Iago tries to bring Roderigo on his side and bring him against Othello.He desperately tries to convince roderigo that Othello's and desdemona's love will and can not last and that Othello is just using her.
He might be interested, like "k-mcl22" mentioned, in Roderigo's military rank. If Iago could bring Roderigo against Othello, Iago's power against Othello would be much stronger.
So basically Iago is not interested in Roderigo as person or his property he only wants to get more power against Othello and Desdemona.
Iago does seem to only care about Roderigo's money, but he also needs him to decieve Othello. Framing Cassio and Desdemona will help him in his plan to get to a higher rank. Roderigo is the easiest person for Iago to use because of the weaknesses he has towards Desdemona. Iago likes to be able to control and Roderigo is at his fnger tips for being manipulated.
Being kind of late to post I agree with most of the previous comments. I dont feel that Iago really wants Roderigo's money, he is just pushing his limits of control and it seems to be working because Rodrigo is doing pretty much everything that he is told to do. From what I interpreted Iagos main objective is to get Rod into a vulnerable position (no land etc) so that when Rod eventually is portrayed as helpless Iago will benefit from his misfortunes and possibly. He is just manipulating Roderigo to do all of his dirty work which will lead to him gaining more status as Roderigo does the opposite.
I don't really know if Iago is looking for Roderigo's money in a sense that he wants it. He know's that if he has Roderigo's money then he'll have some power over people. It's not that he wants wealth, he wants power, and it seems that with money you get power. Iago is a man with many characteristiques, but his main one is his gread for the power that other people have. He wants to be the high and mighty, the "alpha dog" so to speak.
I think the money is more of an afterthought and a tool to distract Roderigo from Iago's real goal which is messing with Othello. However, Iago realizes that if he made that the focus of his speeches, Roderigo wouldn't be as cooperative. Money isn's as important to Iago as he makes it seem to Roderigo.
I don't think that Iago is fully interested in gaining Roderigo's wealth. I'm sure he thinks that its a nice thought but its not his main priority. I think that Iago enjoys having an influence on people which he clearly has on Roderigo. Iago wants to seem like the "good guy" to Roderigo so that when he has gained enough trust he can get Roderigo to do his dirty work for him. It seems like there is a good chance that Iagos plan will go through because Roderigo seems dense and easily manipulated.
I definitely think that Roderigo is a pushover. Like the previous posts, I don't think Iago is trying to fully gain Roderigo's wealth. It's really easy for him to give in to what Iago says.
Why do you think that is?
It's like Iago is trying to put like a "spell" or a "trance" on Roderigo to give in to all his ideas. All has pretty much been said by everyone else so, that pretty much sums it up.
I agree with Kar on the fact that i think Roderigo enjoys having his influence on people. And if Iago makes Roderigo believe that Iago knows what he is talking about, then maybe Roderigo will learn to trust Iago, in which he can use as an advantage to get what he wants from Roderigo and other people.
Alright...so personally I don't think Rodrigo realizes that Iago is manipulating him for his money. Money isn't all that is on Iago's mind though. Considering he also seems to be inclined to seek revenge on Othello. Either way...Iago does have eyes on wealth, but a wandering eye for other things too. So I can't say that he is totally in it for the money, but that is definitely part of the picture.
In all honesty, Iago may simply get a kick out of manipulation. Sure, revenge and the advancement of his career are things that interest him and would be motives for his manipulation of Roderigo, but Iago may simply enjoy the feeling of power that one gets from successfully manipulating someone. Iago clearly is an ego-maniac (as evidenced by his long winded rants both to himself and others) and believes himself to be superior and deserving of all the riches life has to offer. Othello got in the way of him getting a posh placement, and so Iago's ego ties in directly with both his lust for revenge and his need to manipulate. Perhaps he had a bad childhood.
I definitely agree with winnifred when she said that Iago just gets a kick out of manipulating. Like I said on the other post about Iago's personality, I think Iago is simply bored with his own life and gets pleasure through exploiting others. When you tie that in with his ego-mania (as winnifred called it) and jealousy of Othello's military position, his role and depth as a villain increase exponentially.
I agree with "stephanie" I don't think Iago is after Roderigo's money but that he is using Roderigo for his own personal gain. Roderigo is just one more pawn in his plan to get power.
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